8 reducer. 23-Oct. I know the reviews for both of these are real good, and the opinions are usually that these are a. Save $365 Free Shipping. $74. The rings are attached to a riser block that uses a standard Vixen style. Its pretty well fit for my budget, and it seems to have great reviews. for the AT72EDii the rings sort of want to be ~55mm apart, to fit between the retracted dew shield and the focuser. If you have friends and family that want the discount, all they need to do is sign up for Cloudy Nights as well. Hopefully my atrf72 will ship. - posted in Refractors : User desertlens made a really helpful post recently talking about (among other things) focuser drawtube threads. That review was less than stellar and left me with some doubts. For shorter focal lengths, I use the AT72EDII doublet apo. com. This is well suited for observing globular clusters such as M13 and M22. AT72EDII - First Light - posted in Refractors : Finally got some clear skies and able to get the new AstroTech refractor out (here) *Quick note - if this belongs in Beginning AP forum I apologize. 8x reducer/field flattener for f/6 refractors. But it is a beauty, with quality components including the focuser, camera angle adjuster, dew shield, and rings. Hello, I am trying to install an auto-focuser on my AT72edii, and I can't seem to remove the screws that hold the coarse focus knob. Telescope is Astro-Tech AT72EDii with AT2FF field flattener, camera is Olympus OMD E-M1mkii with exposure of 30secs @ iso 800. The AT72EDii is back heavy and made it difficult to balance with the stock 6" rail. This cut the curvature distortion by. Tech Details. 590. Crescent Nebula ZWO asi183mmpro camera attached to a AstroTech AT102ED scope ZWO asi120mm guide camera attached to AT72EDII scope ASIair Plus with EAF and EFW running app on BlueStacks on PC Ioptron GEM45 mount 28-30-30 RGB exposures of 120 seconds processed in SIRIL1. 8x and a field over four times as wide as the full Moon. It they are a bit loose, a little more felt would do just fine. The resolution is lower than the 183MC, but it's a bit misleading: the 183MC has 3672 pixels in height, the 533MC has 3000. 3. The only difference is that the top of the AZ5 tripod is flat, whereas the top of the CG. . What could be this thing? - posted in Refractors : I got a few hours of clear nights before the big storm arrives. If you take the rotator part off, it has 54mm threads on the front. The focuser is butter smooth and easily held my ASI1600mm-C camera. IIRC those are available for $20 or so. It’s clear that Celestron has established itself as a leader in the telescope field! Conclusion and Discussion Posted 28 April 2021 - 03:20 PM. This Astro-Tech ED refractor has:• 72mm f/6 fully multicoated FPL-53 and Lanthanum doublet refractor optics• dual-speed Rack and Pinion 2” focuser with 10:1 ratio fine focusing and built in Camera Angle Adjuster (Same mechanism as our EDT series)• 2” and 1. 22May57Cyg-9A4-G350ZZ-30-30-DGH-FRGB. Skywatcher Telescope N 130/900 Explorer EQ-2. Astro tech AT72EDII vs Apertura 72mm FPL-53 - posted in Refractors : Hello everyone. Shot over two nights. Quick view. ) Optical improvements of the newer model provided by the. I think the light path is too great on the updated scopes. There. Astro-Tech AT72EDII AstroBin's equipment database is entirely maintained by the community. I use my AT72EDii visually and for EAA. 6 72ED Astronomical Telescope $463. Such a top bar could. The AT152EDT is an extension of the incredibly well received EDT series from Astro-Tech. Page 1 of 20 - The AT72EDII is out! - posted in Refractors : Or listed on Astronomics website as wait list anyway. same place, Astronomics). 00. However two of these are outlying and may or may not belong to the group. Focal length of scope is 430mm so 14mm eyepiece gives 31x magnification. 8 reducer and asi533 with zwo dual band filter unguided on avx mount stacked and processed in pixinsight. How would the imaging train look. 00. I opted for the AT72EDII over the Evo 72ED for a number of reasons, but the glass and focuser were the most significant. 3) this will display a screen shot of your frame with the tilt shown as a box overlaid on your image. Or simply replace the original felt with a thicker felt. The Samsung Galaxy A72 was announced on March 17, 2021, and it’s available now in the UK, while Australia will get it from April 9. It did make acquiring that first star easier, especially with a 1-1/4" eyepiece. Thanks for looking. 779. Hopefully my atrf72 will ship this week. 95. I still haven't done a side by side but I have had them out on consecutive. Back Focus Spacing issues with ZWO Cameras - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Not sure if this is the right place to post this but Im having some problems working out the best way to attach ZWO ASI Cameras, specifically 183MM Pro and 183MC Pro to my Astrotech AT72EDII with the AT 0. helicon Co-Administrator Articles: 554 Posts: 11818 Joined: Mon May 06, 2019 1:35 pm 4 Location: Washington TSS Awards Badges. Overall the AT80ED will be a great bargain even with KF61 ED glass. Tech Details. 8X reducer/field flattener is designed for prime focus astrophotography with quality f/6 focal ratio apo refractors such as the Astro-Tech AT72ED and AT130 apo, it will also work well with Astro-Tech and other brand refractors in the f/5. According to Ernest the 4. Mount for an AT72EDII for AP and EAA - posted in Mounts: Folks, I want to add a short focal length scope to my tools for wide field AP and EAA, and am looking at an AT72EDII coupled to a DSLR (for now). I will be using 1. And I know for sure that the Astro-Tech AT72EDII needs a focal reducer/correct. 8 Guidescope to improve the precision of your autoguiding system, for wide-field astrophotography with small CCD imagers, or as. Questions that I have. I don't regret the 72ed. I am waiting on an AT72EDII (so I will have two of the same thing, doesn’t bother me). I presently own an Astro-Tech AT72EDII refractor - similar telescopes can be found in the $500 range. The flattener is threaded for attachment to the telescope via a 54mm metric thread. -iOptron CEM40. Yes, from the USA you'll have to send your mount "across the pond" and spend $400 or so to get it upgraded. Then I start daydreaming about piggy-backing my AT72EDii on my C8 all mounted on the G11G and image with either (or both?). However, for something like the Sombrero Galaxy,. Our non-commissioned, brand agnostic, product advisors tailor recommendations to meet your needs! High Point Scientific is a leading retailer of quality telescopes and accessories for beginner, intermediate, and advanced astronomers alike. I purchased a 0. Now Im looking for a. #101, Woodland Hills, CA 91364. 7 scores <4, 6-8 and 6-9. That's almost $700,00 more. The focuser can rotate as well to help you get the perfect framing. They are the same scope. So that's another $130. ASI2600MC. The silver color 8-2/3" length bar (More Blue) is bolted to the "safety screw" holes at the ends of the black 6" bar. $149. I want something optically much cleaner than my Orion ST80 that will easily work on my Porta II mount. Learn more about the Cadet Apex72 electric wall heater -- which quickly heats up your room and provides more living space. I'm sure the glass is better but I haven't compared the two directly. Astro-Tech AT72EDII w/Altair wedge and Baader filter. 2" dielectric diagonal. I chose the 72ed because of thr good reviews and the star shapes. Ive been getting sub arc second to 1. 11 hours. Perhaps an AT72EDII or the equivalent Skywatcher. Is this pinched optics or something else? Looks like something portruding into the imaging train, but I dont see anything. I cant count the number of times Ive been away from home and said I wish I had my telescope. 818-347-2270. Unguided, using an Orion SkyView Pro mount, AT72EDII telescope and ZWO ASI120MC camera. ( 540nm ) I could see two active regions on the photosphere today. By lwillinger ( View all images and albums) 1 images, 0 comments. $2,490. Since I intend to only use a DSLR (Pentax K3II) with this scope, I wanted a scope with low dispersion. Sharpstar 400F5. I don't have the small plastic cover that fits over the. I use my AT72EDii visually and for EAA. Top. I stacked in SIRIL, performed BE with Graxpert, and then did the processing in PI. It has dual mounting rings with nylon-tipped collimation screws (three per ring). Works great with these and similar models. Start following SamMobile on Google News now! Samsung has released a new software update to the Galaxy A72. On an 8″ f/10 catadioptric it yields 129x. Higher full well capacity. Voyager 2 mount - lightweight and really stable when configured correctly. I think the dust mainly happens during shipping. But this review is based on both visual and AP so I thought I would start here. $419. 00 Not FPL-53. Although at any given magnification, the image in the 80mm will be about 23% brighter with about 11% better resolution. The AT72EDII does really support much higher power than one might think for an f6 scope. This Explore Scientific focal extender doubles the power. The Astro-Tech 2" Field flatterer is what you need. Other: Astro-Tech 2" 99% Reflectivity Dielectric Mirror Diagonal For Refractors. I plan to use a Canon 6D Mark II and a ZWO ASI294MC Pro. worth of data. Add To Cart. Its also about contrast robbing out of focus light, which happens whether you can see the false color or not. That said, the only review I saw for the 80EDT was for the older f7 version. Yes, the AT72EDII drawtube ends with a female M63 thread. SVBONY 220 2" filter. EAA Setups - posted in Electronically Assisted Astronomy (No Post-Processing): Hello everyone! I am thinking about doing some EAA when it gets a little warmer and I feel like being outside instead of remote controlling from inside. Description: The Wizard Nebula is an emission nebula that surrounds the open star cluster NGC 7380 in the constellation. metagawd and galacticinsomnia like thisUse a barlow with AT72EDII and ASI385MC? - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Just starting in astrophotography and I want to start small. For seeing the planets, generally speaking, the more magnification the better (within the limits of this "Rule of Thumb"):The AT72EDII measure at around 4. Skywatcher Telescope AC 70/700 Mercury AZ-2. I am strongly considering the Astro-Tech AT80EDT f/6 and I. 8X REDUCER. Its much better than no flattener, but still isnt perfect in the corners. The total data wound up being about 53 hours, with 18 hours of luminance. Astro-Tech Handle For AT72EDII, AT80ED, AT80EDT, and AT92. I even searched astrobin to look at what others got using this telescope and surprisingly I see the same theme. Page 1 of 3 - My brand new AT72ED-II - posted in Refractors : I got notice my shipment was delivered, so I ran home quick to bring it inside. Page 1 of 3 - TV-76 and AT72EDII - posted in Refractors : Has anyone ever compared the TV-76 to the AT72EDII? I already know that there is a huge price difference. The AT152EDT comes with a 3. Other. Our first star test on the AT72EDII prototype was simply textbook. All you need to do is supply your Cloudy Nights username name for verification when you place an order at Astronomics and that is it. 2" dielectric diagonal. My AT72EDII arrived today - first thing I did was move the included (short) Vixen rail to the top and install a slightly longer rail on the bottom. It keeps. Large. Id like to get better tracking and be able to do AP with the C8 as well. According to ZWO, the length form the sensor to the. An AT72EDII on that is a one-hand and out the door Grab-and-Go setup for sure. You cannot rotate the focuser, there is no threaded connection, the focuser is not great without modifications, and the colour correction is poor for an ED doublet. AT130EDT. Thanks, Joel. I live in a 3rd floor apartment, and have health issues,. Add to cart. Anyway Im based in Southern California and have an upcoming outing planned to the California desert to take advantage of summer viewing. Pronto is old semi-apo with a good lens. com. My earlier comments assumed you were using a DSLR of some sort. Sharpstar 400F5. 2. 2 pounds. 5mm). • two-year warranty. AT72EDii has changed to FCD100 from FPL53 - posted in Refractors : I am probably making more out of this than I should, but I ordered at AT72EDii some time ago and have been (not-so) patiently waiting for this well thought after refractor to compliment my Orion EON 120 ED scope. Posted April 16, 2020. Astro-Tech D Style Handle Kit For Refractors. 8 for the 62ed. Celestron, Meade, and Tele Vue are a few of the industry leading brands High Point carries. For around $300, you get a 70mm aperture, 420mm focal length, f/6 scope with fully multi-coated doublet optics and ED glass!Apertura's attractive refracting telescope has an aperture of 72mm, a focal length of 430mm, and a focal ratio of f/6. 5 as a finder/small telescope/guide scope. 8 Reducer and Field Flattener question - posted in Refractors : Hello. -ASI2600MM PRO. A groove machined into the field flattener barrel engages the thumbscrew or compression ring of your focuser to act as a. Looks pretty sweet! 🍿🍿🍿 With the 430mm focal length Astro-Tech AT72EDII, its five lens/three group multicoated glass optics provide 27. I am new to both this scope and to EAA. This Astro-Tech AT70ED refractor has: • Single ring with a foot that has a 1/4" 20 thread hole for easy attachment to a dovetail. I was experimenting with different cameras and filters. First light with AT72EDII - posted in Refractors : My AT72EDII arrived Thursday. Then two 200g SmallRig counterweights took care of the heavy Ethos on the back end. Even with that, I'm already very happy. Bottom Line is the little SkyHunter is impressive for such a small package. I hoped for a short refractor for larger DSO's, but it seems like this telescope produces very large stars, compared to what I'm used to. 13 March 2019 - 03:41 AM. Page 7 of 20 - The AT72EDII is out! - posted in Refractors : As of today, the boat with the AT72 shipment is scheduled to dock on 10/23. Between the SW and the AT, they should be pretty similar optically, but the AT definitely has the edge mechanically with the sliding dew shield and nicer focuser. I assumed it would come ready to attach to the 72EDII for use with a standard. 00/$459. 00. IMHO the ATRF72 is threaded and fits scopes like the at72edii which you can unscrew the 2-inch adapter and screw in the atrf72. For both my AT72ED and AT72EDII, the color for the in focus and out focus patterns were essentially the same. Astrotech AT72EDII - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I am very seriously considering this as my first scope. We feel this is truly a lifetime instrument. The main thing is the sky background. Amazon. I used AT72edII with reducer, sv705c, and sv220 on my gem28. Add To Cart. Does the SW have the same glass as the AT? If not, is the performance of the SW the same as the AT? Is the AT worth $69 more? AT2D diagonal + AT72EDII - posted in Equipment (No astrophotography): During my initial purchase of the AT72EDII, the AT2D 2 dielectric diagonal came recommended as the diagonal of choice for the AT refractor series. How. The AT72EDII certainly performs well, and it is a keeper for now. Testing my new AT72EDII and I noticed this on the subs,. I own the 72ed and have gotten decent results with it. 8x and a field over four times as wide as the full. OUR PRICE $699. The 60ED and 72EDII also use FLP-53 glass, whereas the new 7OED, like the 80ED, does not. Whichever you go, you are going to love it. Astro-Tech Handle Kit For Refractors. Wanted to share a quick video of the Astro-Tech AT72EDII By the way time of this video I was on pain killers due to me messing up my back, so that's why I li. When an observer takes out a good scope under good skies and uses sensible magnifications, like you did, then wonderful images with superb contrast and color shadings are presented to the observer. At 83mm, the AT72EDII tube is closer to 85mm than 80. The Astro-Tech ATRF72 reducer/flattener threads on the 72EDII focusers. That's 1/3 stop less light. Product Description. Had gain at 535 and exposure 20 seconds. Apertura 72mm FPL-53 Doublet APO Refractor - Apertura Full Frame Field Flattener - Apertura 32 mm Blue Guidescope - $780. Diagonal recommendation for AT72EDII? - posted in Eyepieces: Hi All， I received my AT72EDII this week from Astronomics. The install was not seamless as the bracket holes simply did not match up anywhere on my refractor, some MacGyvering later I got it to function quite well. Compared to its old version, the main change of 5V EAF is the elimination of the 12V power supply port. IMO, the felt dust on the objective, from the three pads, isn't a big deal. A dedicated flattener is £80. What would you recommend for a mount? Id like a goto EQ mount that is not heavy. This cut the curvature distortion by. I have read the beginners guide to buy a telescope for visual astronomy and, since I don't want a heavy and bulky dobsonian, I am in doubt between the two other proposed options: The Astro-Tech AT72EDII or the Celestron NexStar 5SE . The ATR8 is more universal with only threads on the camera end. . +1 on refractors. SKU S11510. I do some visual with a C8 and some AP using an AT72EDII. 5" focusers from AT, WO, SV and probably others. I have the 72ed and I took my time choosing it. 4. M31. But, between the AT70 and AT72EDII, I think you would gain some good color correction as both are F6. I have the AT72EDII and the SV80A which is similar to the AT80ED but has FPL53 glass. It can also be easily configured as a six-element f/4. choices. The new visual back was about 12mm shorter than the rotator. Great accessory for the AT60ED if you're looking to attach a viewfinder, finder. While the classic ED80 F7. Astro-Tech AT60ED 60mm f/6 FPL-53 ED Doublet $369. 75” across the bottom. First Light: Lunt 80mm ED refractor - posted in Refractors : Ok, I just received a new to me Lunt 80mm f/7 ED refractor. Feel free to give us a call if you have a question about your scope if it isn’t an Astro-Tech product. I use a Nikon D5100 with an ASIAir (not a mini, though) and the Nikon specific USB cable. 22) Fasten your seatbelt because the next four weeks are busy! Your daily pace will accelerate with errands, visits, short trips, increased. With the 430mm focal length Astro-Tech AT72EDII, its five lens/four group multicoated glass optics provide 40x and a field over three times as wide as the full Moon. I have an SVBony 60mm guidescope that I want to mount directly on the handle so that it. So now the AT72EDII is back on the cards! I'm still in no hurry, though. This FF/FR makes the scope 346mm f/4. Astro-Tech AT72EDII Refractor OTA FPL-53 f/6 $469. I recently got the ASI533MC Pro and took the rig out for a spin tonight and couldn’t get the. Ive owned a couple of AT80EDs, and theyve been excellent AP telescopes, but I want something a bit more portable. I like the AT72EDII scope, but at the moment they are all out of stock. Thanks. AT72EDII and AT80EDT and their respective reducer/flattener - posted in Refractors : Soliciting thoughts and advice around a potential very near future purchase of one of these two scopes for venturing into wide-field AP. Your AT72EDII with the longer focal length should be much better than my AT60ED in that respect. Very best, The Astro-Tech handle is not only nice to look at, it is extremely useful as it performs double duty. Get Telescopes of all makes at OpticsCentral. I was also advised to opt for a triplet for imaging. More to the point, according to the SV website, this is a going out of business sale for the SV Access 80mm. I recently bought an at72edii last week (8-3-2022) for purely visual use. The important perfomance updates come in the type of ED element combination and the type of foucser the AT125EDL is built around. I have a. Im well aware that a 6 mirror scope catches light fast and there is a bigger clarity and it does have its advantages, but also some cons. I like the idea of the quietness of the. We've helped hundreds of thousands of people pick the right telescopes or accessories since 1979. Apetura and have. Unguided, using an Orion SkyView Pro mount, AT72EDII telescope and ZWO ASI120MC camera. Page 1 of 2 - Fluid Video Head for a Small Telescope - posted in Mounts: I am trying out a fluid video head as part of a grab-and-go set-up for my Astro-Tech AT72EDII scope. m8, 16 frames of 68s . EAA would. We wanted to bring the best value and performance that we possibly could in a large refractor. ASTRO-TECH AT72ED 72MM F/6 ED $379. The SV70 was a slight overload. About Us . Will the AT72EDII work well with a lightweight camera tripod, or does it need something. Im thinking something in the 50-80mm range for a refractor and the further under $1000 the better. Usually, that box has a crooked shape, which is showing the tilt. Page 1 of 3 - Seeking Input: AT80ED vs. The image below was made with a TV-85 and is the first capture. Posted 17 July 2020 - 09:32 AM. Page 1 of 3 - Seeking Input: AT80ED vs. 8. Page 1 of 2 - Tilt, backspacing, or something else? - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I recent had first light with an AT72EDII with . Save $50. Efficient heat and more space to decorate. Bortle 8 - First light with Askar FRA400. I looked at the horizon ed60 and various others. With a short focal length refractor it is a low power eyepiece. EAA with AT72EDII & ASI 482. Two more options: #1 - rotate the scope 180 degrees so the focuser knobs are at the top rather than the bottom (looks ugly but works fine) #2 - pick up a set of riser blocks or equivalent spacers (even chunks of hardwood) - my AT72EDII sits on a set of Stellarvue riser blocks on a Losmandy dovetail. The WO scopes are higher priced, but star party demos pop up from time to time with nice discounts. AT72EDII AND MANFRETTO PHOTO TRIPOD? - posted in Refractors : Ive tried to ID this tripod and cant find any specs. 8X Reducer/Flattner for 400-600mm Refractors. Page 1 of 2 - FC or Coma in my Refractor? - posted in Refractors : Hi, Does this look like coma or field curvature in my images? The full image is shown and then a full scale crop of the upper left. Re: A 120mm apo vs C8 edge HD. 8x Reducer/Field Flattener for F/6 Refractors -. We carry all brands and products, like Meade telescopes, Celestron telescopes, and more. . Now, using the SW AZ5 "Heavy Duty" with larger and longer refractors is a different story. Just my opinion from the images on the website. Regarding 0. Friday we traveled from our Bortle 7ish skies to the club. AT80ED or at72edII - posted in Refractors : I didnt know which one of these telescopes I should get Im looking for one with good color correction I will be using it for a dedicated astrophotography camera I am kind of leaning to the at-80ed but I dont know how good the color correction is on that one and whichever one I decide to get I will be getting. AT72EDII + ASI2600MM - posted in Refractors : While waiting for the SVX140T to arrive, Im imaging with my AT72EDII + ASI2600MM along with the Aptura 1x adjustable flattener. Quick rundown on how to install the William Optics Flat 73A flattener on the Astro-Tech AT72EDII refractor. My Orion is also a doublet with an FPL-53 and is really nice. Far from being a generic run-of-the-mill image hosting website, it was created and is still operated by an astrophotographer, and boasts features that are very specific to astrophotography. Astro-Tech AT72EDII vs Celestron NexStar 5SE. AT72EDII + 0. I dont think Ill be loosing too much aperture with. It functions well for medium high magnification observing with long focal length refractors, reflectors, or catadioptric scopes. Both had good color correction. Its a perfect compliment to the L-Enhance. For example, the fully-multicoated. So, do I: --wait 3 months for the 80EDT --buy the AT72EDII --buy the AT80ED Intended. Edited by gwlee, 10 June 2017 - 04:17 PM. I grabbed 2 hours of data on Tuesday night with the Astro Tech 72EDII and a modified Canon 450D, a very old work. The Evostar 72 has noticeable bloat in the blue channel, I would get a different telescope if you are doing imaging. Camera is Pentax K3II, image is cropped for composition. a 12" F/4 is a reasonable portable proposition for anyone fit and healthy with a car. Add To Cart. Summary[edit] Description. Looks pretty sweet! 🍿🍿🍿. I cant count the number of times Ive been away from home and said I wish I had my telescope. I cannot seem to force enough CA to ruin my joy of. Color correction is really good, not AP Stowaway good but noticeably better than the 60ED, 72EDii, AT102ED and AT102EDL doublets I. Astro-Tech AT60ED 60mm f/6 FPL-53 ED Doublet $369. Dec 1, 2022. But at these smaller apertures it's not quite as bad as if it were a 102mm situation. Sharpstar 61EDPH II 61 mm Astrograph Refractor OTA - $500. The fluid head is the Manfrotto 502AH and the tripod is a carbon fiber Robus RC8860 with the optional center post. I saw it in an ad in S&T (pre-internet) and. As a registered member of Cloudy Nights you are signed up already. I've owned the AT72EDII and a couple of SkyWatcher 120EDs, but not the SW 72ED. In addition to the upgraded glass, the AT72EDII has an upgraded focuser, with a fine focus and a diagonal rotator (the same focuser as their EDT line), and unlike the AT72ED, the AT72EDII comes with split tube rings. . 00. This Astro-Tech ED refractor has:• 72mm f/6 fully multicoated FPL-53 and Lanthanum doublet refractor optics• dual-speed Rack and Pinion 2” focuser with 10:1. The Astro-Tech AT60GS guidescope is a 60mm aperture 240mm focal length (f/4) achromatic refractor with a helical focuser. Anyone with experience with ASTRO-TECH AT72EDII REFRACTOR - posted in DSLR, Mirrorless & General-Purpose Digital Camera DSO Imaging: Hi all I am looking this the AT72EDII to use with two cameras. 95. Visual Grab and Go Configuration. My guess would be that the AT70ED is going to be closer to the original AT72ED. The AT72EDII didn't go quite that far for me yet, after only a small amount of daytime testing, but I am really optimistic and look forward to giving it a proper run under dark, clear skies. 8 reducer - posted in Refractors : I recently obtained an oag-l from an estate sale and thought I would give it a. For several months, I have been the owner of my first ever telescope - the Sky-Watcher Evostar 72ED. 4) work methodically to adjust the screws on your camera's tilt plate, and repeat the above procedure. The astro tech . I've owned the AT72EDII and a couple of SkyWatcher 120EDs, but not the SW 72ED.